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Screwed by Southeast Toyota Finance

photo_8.jpgWe own a Lexus 300RX outright that has only about 70K miles on it and since we work from home we don't put that many miles on a car. We like the idea of keeping the reliable Lexus long term while leasing a new car that's fun to drive every three years. A little over three years ago, we leased a Toyota Solara convertible from a dealer in south Charlotte. The financing on the lease was handled by a finance company that goes by the name Southeast Toyota Finance.

Everything was fine until we turned the car in at the end of the lease. Because it was a three-year lease, it included 36K miles. But because we don't commute, we'd managed to put on only 26K between the house and Starbucks, the house and Caribou, and the house and Reilly's school. Other than that, I took the car to Bloomington a couple of times and Mary drove to Richmond once or twice.

The car had a couple of small paint chips in the hood, a couple of dings in the doors, and a scratch Reilly had put in it with a rock on the rear bumper. I was prepared to pay for Reilly's damage which was estimated for repair at about $175.

To our dismay, we received a bill for over $1,500, most of it attributable to "excess wear and tear,"  and something called a "disposition fee." The charges included not only Reilly's damage, but basically a full reconditioning and repainting of the car's exterior.

I was livid and sensed a rip-off in progress. I was right.

The small print in the lease contract, which the salesperson of course neglected to point out at time of sale and which we couldn't have negotiated anyway, defines excess wear and tear as:

  • Glass that is damaged or that you have tinted;
  • Damaged body, frame, fenders, metal work, trim, or paint;
  • Missing wheel covers, jack or wheel wrench;
  • Torn dash, floor covers, seats, headliners, upholstery or interior work or trunk liners;
  • Any tires (including spare) that are missing, not of comparable quality to the originals, or with less than 1/8 inch of tread remaining;
  • Damage from water, hail, or sand;
  • Any damage that makes the vehicle either unsafe or unlawful to operate;
  • Any other damage, whether or not covered by insurance, that would cost more than $50 to repair or replace.

A close reading of this fine print r(especially the emboldened phrases) eveals that basically any damage is considered "excess." That is, "excess" wear and tear includes what a reasonable person would consider "ordinary" wear and tear.

This unconscionable and deceptive definition and the additional fine print, which allows the finance company to recoup $350 for a disposition fee (even when delivery is made directly to the dealer from which the car was leased), is undoubtedly what allows it to entice buyers with a low upfront cost and low APR. The finance company knows it will make its nut and more on the back end.

When I pointed out to the Mr. Sullivan from Southeast Finance to whom I spoke that his business practices were unethical and probably illegal in states more civilized than North Carolina, he immediately offered to discount my costs by 20 percent. But I had to be an asshole to receive the 20 percent discount and my guess is that few people go that far. A result the finance company counts on in its pricing.

I demanded and received a written release tfrom Mr. Sullivan to the effect of the deal I'd wrangled from him.

But now the bastards are hassling us over vehicle taxes that so far as we are aware have already been paid and are about half of what Toyota Finance Southeast claims them to be.When they called my house at 8:00 AM this morning, harassing me for payment, I informed them I'd filed a formal comthe NC Department of Justice. I've also complained bitterly to the dealer from which the car was leased.

I'm not sure how this will end. But I know this. If any of you reading this plan to lease a car anytime soon, beware the fine print. Because the state of North Carolina allows dealers and financers to define "excess wear and tear" to essentially include any wear and tear. You can count on getting a bill for refinishing and repainting at the end of your lease.

Even if you've driven your car mostly locally, placed 10K miles less than the contracted for mileage, and otherwise taken care of the car.

Bottom line, beware the fine print.

Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 at 05:32PM by Registered CommenterGary in | Comments2 Comments

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Let me see if I got this right -- they called you on Sunday morning, 8 AM over this? Holy smokes. The dirty dogs. Harass them back. Hard.

My wife has had several leased cars through her work, but we never get hit with this idiot stuff. We buy a good set of high-performance tires when needed, and keep it looking sharp. We never have any issues with the small stuff. The rule is, any damage that you can hide with a credit card (held up against the car, not charged) is not considered excess wear and tear. (M-B North America -- I can provide more details if you want.)

I don't lease cars for personal use, though my situation (not being in a small business) is different from yours that way. I get attached to my cars. We drive them until they turn to dust, and then blow away in a strong wind. As you can imagine, the turnover cycle is long -- 12-15 years per car, normally. Sometimes more.

Shooting for 20 years with my current ride. I think I can make it, easy. Purchase price, amortized over that time, would work out to about $850 per year. Low insurance, low maintenance, nice car. Sweet. We use the savings for nice vacations and other important things. Sometimes I sell the car at the end, as I did with my old Mustang -- it is now a street rod, owned by a co-worker.

When I see a benefit to trading more often, or leasing, I'll change my ways. I don't see it happening soon.
October 19, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBill
I've filed a complaint with the NC AG against these guyy about the "wear and tear" issue. If they call back again, I'll file another on the harassment issue.

This is the first time we've had a problem like this with a leased car. What's amazing is that most of the driving is I do is between my house and the local Starbucks, where they pour my grande non-fat latte the moment I walk in the door.

As for buing and holding, that's definitely our strategy with the Lexus.It's a good strategy.

October 20, 2007 | Registered CommenterGary

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